<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-264834212667070552.post1247683630023404160..comments</id><updated>2011-09-05T15:28:24.815-07:00</updated><category term='child'/><category term='Hindu'/><category term='Geert Wilders'/><category term='Arabic'/><category term='crucifixion'/><category term='awl'/><category term='Medina'/><category term='sunan'/><category term='cartoons'/><category term='Dhimmitude'/><category term='wife beating'/><category term='Mohamed'/><category term='Stages of grief'/><category term='Israel'/><category term='wafa sultan'/><category term='Jew'/><category term='uzair'/><category term='bride'/><category term='inheritance'/><category term='ezra'/><category term='Mumbai'/><category term='al-awl'/><category term='honour killing'/><category term='son of Allah'/><category term='Aisha'/><category term='Bible'/><category term='Jews'/><category term='Quran'/><category term='Quraysh'/><category term='pedophilia'/><category term='Hadith'/><category term='Sharia'/><category term='sexism'/><category term='Western'/><category term='Ayaan Hirsi Ali'/><category term='pedophile'/><category term='logic'/><category term='kalalah'/><category term='Zionists'/><category term='Sahih'/><category term='maths'/><category term='Al-Jazeera'/><category term='violence'/><category term='Submission'/><category term='Qu&apos;ran'/><category term='Banu Qurayza'/><category term='muslims'/><category term='MSM'/><category term='Dhimmi'/><category term='Matt Stone'/><category term='Koran'/><category term='Islamist'/><category term='Mecca'/><category term='Muhammad'/><category term='imam'/><category term='fallacy'/><category term='dishonesty'/><category term='Netherlands'/><category term='thighing'/><category term='Mohammad'/><category term='Pakistan'/><category term='fallacies'/><category term='mohammed'/><category term='Amsterdam'/><category term='Abu Talib'/><category term='Christians'/><category term='Jihad'/><category term='Great Britain'/><category term='Fitna'/><category term='Joseph 40:18'/><category term='Pallywood'/><category term='infidel'/><category term='Al-Maghili'/><category term='Arab'/><category term='People of the Book'/><category term='South Park'/><category term='murder'/><category term='Ayesha'/><category term='Denial'/><category term='honor killing'/><category term='India'/><category term='Yahoo'/><category term='science'/><category term='miracles'/><category term='puberty'/><category term='Islam'/><category term='women'/><category term='math'/><category term='Muslim'/><category term='Khadija'/><category term='crucify'/><category term='George Galloway'/><category term='raids'/><category term='son of God'/><category term='Pat Condell'/><category term='Theo Van Gogh'/><category term='fauxtography'/><category term='abrogation'/><category term='Ibn Hazm'/><category term='terrorism'/><category term='Palestinian'/><category term='ahadith'/><category term='Jizya'/><category term='Christ'/><category term='haditha'/><category term='lying'/><category term='Danish'/><category term='usc'/><category term='Trey Parker'/><category term='aul'/><category term='mathematics'/><category term='Europe'/><category term='Aslama'/><category term='Dutch'/><title type='text'>Comments on How to discuss Islam with Muslims: Dishonesty</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.sillyallah.com/feeds/1247683630023404160/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/1247683630023404160/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.sillyallah.com/2007/10/dishonesty.html'/><author><name>Silly Allah</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04109764864893188523</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>9</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-264834212667070552.post-3786901337749347846</id><published>2011-07-08T16:26:23.986-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-08T16:26:23.986-07:00</updated><title type='text'>&amp;quot;So this Hadith is saying that you can lie to...</title><content type='html'>&amp;quot;So this Hadith is saying that you can lie to&lt;br /&gt;1. achieve success in war&lt;br /&gt;2. to bring about peace&lt;br /&gt;3. to help a husband and wife reconcile.&lt;br /&gt;You can also 4. lie to save one&amp;#39;s life:&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;These reasons for lying are perfectly acceptable. For example the first one is that you can lie to achieve success. If you are fighting in a war and you will die but only if you lie and bluff to other army that you have more troops you can save your life or you will die. Would you rather lie or die.&lt;br /&gt;The second one was to bring peace. If I want to bring world peace and all I say for example that we love each other (that&amp;#39;s not true) I can make world peace. If I can achieve peace through a lie and make everyone life secure why wouldn&amp;#39;t I.&lt;br /&gt;The third one was to help a husband and wife reconcile, if only one lie will unite then again, then why wouldn&amp;#39;t you lie for them.&lt;br /&gt;4. The last one was to lie to save one&amp;#39;s life, why would you lie. For example your close friend is about to get killed because he has lots of money but if you lie and say he doesn&amp;#39;t have any money then the robber wont waste his time killing him.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/1247683630023404160/comments/default/3786901337749347846'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/1247683630023404160/comments/default/3786901337749347846'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.sillyallah.com/2007/10/dishonesty.html?showComment=1310167583986#c3786901337749347846' title=''/><author><name>TheStudent54</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/18293588674199711565</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.sillyallah.com/2007/10/dishonesty.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-264834212667070552.post-1247683630023404160' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/posts/default/1247683630023404160' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-585495249'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-264834212667070552.post-9090502304838652745</id><published>2010-06-01T00:03:37.078-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-01T00:03:37.078-07:00</updated><title type='text'>This is honestly the best website I have ever been...</title><content type='html'>This is honestly the best website I have ever been to. It&amp;#39;s helping me not only improve my logical reasoning skills but also exposing a cult of hostility. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you for the work! I hope you keep going!</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/1247683630023404160/comments/default/9090502304838652745'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/1247683630023404160/comments/default/9090502304838652745'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.sillyallah.com/2007/10/dishonesty.html?showComment=1275375817078#c9090502304838652745' title=''/><author><name>Jedi master</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11210923093597712567</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.sillyallah.com/2007/10/dishonesty.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-264834212667070552.post-1247683630023404160' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/posts/default/1247683630023404160' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1616022288'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-264834212667070552.post-1092700655000126073</id><published>2009-12-17T08:55:17.120-08:00</published><updated>2009-12-17T08:55:17.120-08:00</updated><title type='text'>And there is a fine line between broad conditions ...</title><content type='html'>And there is a fine line between broad conditions for permission and advocacy, especially when you look at the examples and comments from Muhammad himself.  Sorry, my experience in discussion (as evidenced by the comments by Muslims on this very blog) does not corroborate your comment.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/1247683630023404160/comments/default/1092700655000126073'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/1247683630023404160/comments/default/1092700655000126073'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.sillyallah.com/2007/10/dishonesty.html?showComment=1261068917120#c1092700655000126073' title=''/><author><name>Silly Allah</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04109764864893188523</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.sillyallah.com/2007/10/dishonesty.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-264834212667070552.post-1247683630023404160' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/posts/default/1247683630023404160' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-650527230'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-264834212667070552.post-6451742547749906933</id><published>2009-12-17T05:58:06.803-08:00</published><updated>2009-12-17T05:58:06.803-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Just to share my thoughts.

(1) Agreed, as stated,...</title><content type='html'>Just to share my thoughts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(1) Agreed, as stated, there are 3 (+ 1 for Taqiyah) reasons where Islam permits lying as stated in the article. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(2) Islam does not advocate lying. However, if Muslims do lie for their own benefit, then it is no fault of the religion, but of the person themselves showing lack of understanding of Islam, its teachings and lack of fear of Allah (SWT)</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/1247683630023404160/comments/default/6451742547749906933'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/1247683630023404160/comments/default/6451742547749906933'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.sillyallah.com/2007/10/dishonesty.html?showComment=1261058286803#c6451742547749906933' title=''/><author><name>Muhammad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12941618093323850324</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.sillyallah.com/2007/10/dishonesty.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-264834212667070552.post-1247683630023404160' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/posts/default/1247683630023404160' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-908609114'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-264834212667070552.post-5783693310135367403</id><published>2009-11-01T02:34:14.136-08:00</published><updated>2009-11-01T02:34:14.136-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Its a common encounter with the Muslims that they ...</title><content type='html'>Its a common encounter with the Muslims that they will never accept that Mohammad was a pedophile and Islam is not a religion of lies, whereas I have a several encounters Muslims taking the path of lies for their personal benefits and the benefits for Islam. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your endeavor in bringing truth to the Muslims are appreciated.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;May The God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob bless you abundantly, with Jesus Christ our Saviour in the unity of Holy Spirit One God for ever and ever ....Amen &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Shelley Keith Benjamin&lt;br /&gt;E-mail:gmtsource@hotmail.com</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/1247683630023404160/comments/default/5783693310135367403'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/1247683630023404160/comments/default/5783693310135367403'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.sillyallah.com/2007/10/dishonesty.html?showComment=1257071654136#c5783693310135367403' title=''/><author><name>gmtsource</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07932316533449981885</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.sillyallah.com/2007/10/dishonesty.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-264834212667070552.post-1247683630023404160' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/posts/default/1247683630023404160' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-566278527'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-264834212667070552.post-7160227693236405425</id><published>2009-02-21T12:27:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-02-21T12:27:00.000-08:00</updated><title type='text'>I think muslims are liars and their religion of ha...</title><content type='html'>I think muslims are liars and their religion of hate and pedophelia needs to be exposed</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/1247683630023404160/comments/default/7160227693236405425'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/1247683630023404160/comments/default/7160227693236405425'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.sillyallah.com/2007/10/dishonesty.html?showComment=1235248020000#c7160227693236405425' title=''/><author><name>Iyerman sayeth</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13061483421347578711</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_posWsN4R7f8/SQehGigCWYI/AAAAAAAAAEs/eeNGn_Xkye4/S220/Joker3.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.sillyallah.com/2007/10/dishonesty.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-264834212667070552.post-1247683630023404160' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/posts/default/1247683630023404160' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-286985319'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-264834212667070552.post-3250168551468396072</id><published>2008-02-17T07:56:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-17T07:56:00.000-08:00</updated><title type='text'>You can see the result of the ingrained approval o...</title><content type='html'>You can see the result of the ingrained approval of lieing in Islam.  Muslims lie so much to themselves, to other Muslims and, of course. to the infidels,that themselves cannot distinguish between truth and lies.  I.E., they come to believe their own eyes.  That is why Islam is the perfect cult.  That and the rules to never question and kill those who question Islam.  It's the perfect trap to enslave the human mind and makes it followers zombies.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/1247683630023404160/comments/default/3250168551468396072'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/1247683630023404160/comments/default/3250168551468396072'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.sillyallah.com/2007/10/dishonesty.html?showComment=1203263760000#c3250168551468396072' title=''/><author><name>John Sobieski</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01954797087827357102</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.sillyallah.com/2007/10/dishonesty.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-264834212667070552.post-1247683630023404160' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/posts/default/1247683630023404160' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1529431537'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-264834212667070552.post-1910001477410812040</id><published>2008-01-22T22:56:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-01-22T22:56:00.000-08:00</updated><title type='text'>"1)A Muslim cannot be a liar".&lt;br&gt;You're kidding, ...</title><content type='html'>"1)A Muslim cannot be a liar".&lt;BR/&gt;You're kidding, right?  I see, so if I find a Muslim who lies(such as yourself on this page: &lt;A HREF="http://www.sillyallah.com/2007/11/violent-sexism-and-wife-beating-in_11.html" REL="nofollow"&gt;violent sexism in Islam&lt;/A&gt;), then that person is not a Muslim?  This is the circular reasoning &lt;A HREF="http://www.sillyallah.com/2007/10/fallacies-and-dishonesty.html" REL="nofollow"&gt;fallacy&lt;/A&gt;.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;"2)Shiites are not Muslims."&lt;BR/&gt;And they say the same about the Sunnis.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I take it that since they lie,  you want to exclude them (referring to your rule 1 fallacy).  Unfortunately, all aspects of the Islamic culture of dishonesty are not restricted to Shiites.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;"3)No matter how much anyone studies, they cannot find an atom of true fault in Ad Deen Al Islaam."&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You know this is false because you have not been able to prove the facts and logic on this site wrong.  Instead, you've resorted to fallacies, threats, and lies.  If you were a critical thinker with an open mind, you might realize that there are faults and that your Allah friend is imaginary.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;"You should give this up."&lt;BR/&gt;You're comments only encourage me to keep going.  With every post, you prove my points to the readers.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/1247683630023404160/comments/default/1910001477410812040'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/1247683630023404160/comments/default/1910001477410812040'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.sillyallah.com/2007/10/dishonesty.html?showComment=1201071360000#c1910001477410812040' title=''/><author><name>Silly Allah</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04109764864893188523</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.sillyallah.com/2007/10/dishonesty.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-264834212667070552.post-1247683630023404160' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/posts/default/1247683630023404160' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-650527230'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-264834212667070552.post-4272117553555479370</id><published>2008-01-22T20:21:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-01-22T20:21:00.000-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Bismillaah.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1)&lt;br&gt;"A Muslim cannot be a lia...</title><content type='html'>Bismillaah.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;1)&lt;BR/&gt;"A Muslim cannot be a liar".&lt;BR/&gt;-MuHammad Ar Rasuulullaah Sal Allaahu 'Alaihi Was Sallam.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;2)&lt;BR/&gt;Shiites are not Muslims.&lt;BR/&gt;They believe some things that exclude them from the Religion such as the Ahlul Bayt judging them on Al Yawmid Deen.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;3)&lt;BR/&gt;No matter how much anyone studies, they cannot find an atom of true fault in Ad Deen Al Islaam.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You should give this up.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/1247683630023404160/comments/default/4272117553555479370'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/1247683630023404160/comments/default/4272117553555479370'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.sillyallah.com/2007/10/dishonesty.html?showComment=1201062060000#c4272117553555479370' title=''/><author><name>QuddusMow</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08604272476481072710</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.sillyallah.com/2007/10/dishonesty.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-264834212667070552.post-1247683630023404160' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/264834212667070552/posts/default/1247683630023404160' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-358403133'/></entry></feed>
