Wednesday, January 9, 2008

Interesting email from Yahoo

Taking a break from the usual contradictions, horrors and mistakes in Islamic holy book to discuss a recent email I received from Yahoo.

Here's the background: I was surfing through Yahoo Answers, and saw a question by a 15 year old that was about to convert to Islam. If I remember correctly, the person was female. I immediately thought - oh no, a 15 year old girl is going to subject herself to life as a second class citizen, and risk death if she later decides to deconvert to an apostate (if she lives in the wrong country). So I wrote back to the question with quotes from the Quran and Hadith. So other than a few words here and there, I just quoted from Islamic "holy" books. Well, apparently, Islamic holy books violate Yahoo's terms of service as you'll see below, so Yahoo decided to delete my post. Well, now I know to continue my migration away from Yahoo to their competitors (this won't be hard since their site has been awfully slow lately). Here's the email (with my post included - oh, and the post was in paragraph form when I wrote it, but Yahoo Answers mangles everything):

Hello Silly Allah

You have posted content to Yahoo! Answers in violation of our Community Guidelines or Terms of Service. As a result, your content has been deleted. Community Guidelines help to keep Yahoo! Answers a safe and useful community, so we appreciate your consideration of its rules.

Question: Islam related question... Help me...?

Question Details: I am a 15 year old who is going to convert to is lslam in a few days... Cam any1 help me in explaining how to pray and purify oneself B4 praying?? thx a lot...

Deleted Answer: Are you ready to be beaten as a second-class citizen? 4:34 Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and BEAT THEM; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great. Do you like pedophiles? Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64 Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was SIX YEARS OLD and he consummated his marriage when she was NINE YEARS OLD, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151 Narrated 'Aisha: I used to PLAY WITH DOLLS in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13) Do you like violence? 9:5 Then when the Sacred Months have passed, then kill the Mushrikun {unbelievers} wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush. But if they repent and perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat {the Islamic ritual prayers}), and give Zakat {alms}, then leave their way free. Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. 8:39. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do. 8:67. It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war (and free them with ransom) until he had made a great slaughter (among his enemies) in the land. You desire the good of this world (i.e. the money of ransom for freeing the captives), but Allah desires (for you) the Hereafter. And Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise. 9:29. Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

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Haid Dasalami said...

That's rich indeed--and funny. The inglorious Koran violates Yahoo's terms of service. LOL.

Thanks for sharing, Silly.

mzaidi said...

There is no record of any relationship of a senior male with an adolescent or minor girl in initial Muslim era. Moreover, in Arab culture, girls used to reach the age of puberty at the age of 9 years, but they were not meant to be involved in sexual activity before growing more old.
The people who think or write indecent comments regarding the holiest personalities like Noah, Abraham, Lot, Ishmael, Isaac, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Jesus or Hazrat Muhammad (peace and blessings of Almighty God be upon them all), must get ready for the wrath of God in the form of exemplary punishment upon such persons. In addition, anyone who is in any doubt about the holiest and the most sacred life of the Holy Prophet Hazrat Muhammad (peace and blessings of Almighty Allah be upon him), must look into the very fact that the Holy Prophet never indulged or involved into any type of indecency even at the prime of his youth, when he was not married yet. It is therefore, his worst enemies of his contemporary times never raised a finger regarding his noble and pious life and sacred character. In addition, marriage at small age was a tradition among Arabs, which can be analysed by going through the history of that era. So, sexual relationship after reaching the age of puberty has always been the part of all cultures and civilizations.

Silly Allah said...

Your comment is quite funny. You not only contradict the Hadith, but you contradict yourself. You wrote:

"There is no record of any relationship of a senior male with an adolescent or minor girl in initial Muslim era."

Then you wrote:

"In addition, marriage at small age was a tradition among Arabs, which can be analysed by going through the history of that era."

Never mind this obvious error. Just go through this post to reference Muhmammad's own pedophilia. It was documented by other Muslims as I'm sure you know.

Also, this comment is just plain false and unscientific: "in Arab culture, girls used to reach the age of puberty at the age of 9 years," as can be seen in this post on Muslim apologist nonsense on Muhammad's pedophilia.