Thursday, November 15, 2007

The mathematical, scientific and historical errors

There are almost too many errors and contradictions in the Quran from which non-Muslims must choose. Here is my favorite opening salvo when messaging a Muslim:

"1. Let's start with a mathematical mistake. This one is best to do on your own so that you can see the problems yourself. Go to the inheritance verses (4:11, 4:12 and 4:176), read them here: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html

Now, calculate how to split the inheritance for a man how dies and leaves behind: 3 daughters, 2 parents and two wives. It should take about 15 minutes.

3 daughters: x%
2 parents: y%
2 wives: z%

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2. Historical mistake. The Quran plagiarizes much of the Bible. In the process of copying, sometimes Mohammad and his buddies got creative. In the following example, their creativity caused them to leave behind an obvious historical error. From the story of Joseph...

Here's the Bible:

40:18 Then Joseph answered and said, "This is its interpretation: the three baskets are three days;

40:19 within three more days Pharaoh will lift up your head from you and will hang you on a tree, and the birds will eat your flesh off you."

Now, here's the Quran (different translations listed below to make it easy):
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YUSUFALI: "O my two companions of the prison! As to one of you, he will pour out the wine for his lord to drink: as for the other, he will hang from the cross, and the birds will eat from off his head. (so) hath been decreed that matter whereof ye twain do enquire"...
PICKTHAL: O my two fellow-prisoners! As for one of you, he will pour out wine for his lord to drink; and as for the other, he will be crucified so that the birds will eat from his head. Thus is the case judged concerning which ye did inquire.
SHAKIR: O my two mates of the prison! as for one of you, he shall give his lord to drink wine; and as for the other, he shall be crucified, so that the birds shall eat from his head, the matter is decreed concerning which you inquired.

Did you see the difference? The Bible talked about decapitation followed by hanging. The Quran talked about crucifixion. That's where the error occurs. You see, archaeologists point out 6th century BC Persia as the earliest occurrence of crucifixion, yet the story of Joseph was over 10 centuries before that. The ancient Egyptians did not do crucifixion before the Roman's brought the practice over. Mohammad should be more careful when he plagiarizes.

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3. How about another obvious one. You see Mohammad knew that the Christians believed in a son of god, so he assumed the Jews did too:

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YUSUFALI: The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!
PICKTHAL: And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they!
SHAKIR: And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

Mistake! Find me a Jew that talks about Ezra. You can't. Especially one that talks about Ezra being the son of god. You see, the Jews find the whole son of god thing to be blasphemous. They would not say it. Another Quran mistake."

There is enough here to start a conversation. In the next set of posts, I will go through the common counterarguments from Muslims and show you why they are false. First the Quran inheritance mistakes.

6 comments:

QuddusMow said...

A'UudhuBillaahi Minash ShaiTaanir Rajeem.
Bismillaahir RaHmaanir RaHeem.

SubHaanAllaahi WalHamdulillaahi Rabbil 'Aalameen, Rabbul Mashriqaini Wa Maghribain.

As Salaatu Was Salaamu 'Alar Rasuulihiy, An Nabiyi Umiyi, Mentioned in the books that came withMoses and Isaiah and Jesus, upon whom be Peace, 'Aliahim Us Salaam.

Though you copy and paste and post foolish articles and other url addresses from other seriously misled and criminal postings, you cannot prove that Al Islaam is cruel while people who don't believe carry on the most disgusting and evil carryings on in their homes and in secret. That whilst trying to impress their same idiological and psycho and sociological diseases on the masses.
You also miss something called Tafseer, the explanations of context and application of these verses which were announced and emplaced by Allaah by His Final Messenger to mankind, MuHammad Sal Allaahu 'Aliahi Was Sallam. You have occasionally placed excerpts in some places but you do not represent the emplacement of True Law from Allaah with your critical analyses while picking at books and bits of written information from where you select to draw them.

Allaahu Akbar wa Allaahu Alim.
Allaah is the Greatest and Allaah is the only One who Knows all.

Silly Allah said...

LOL, oh you got me :)

Wake up! You're living in a brainwashed delusional state.

There is no Allah.

QuddusMow said...

Bismillaah.
AlHamdulillaahi Rabbil 'Aalameen
The Praise is for Allaah the Lord of the Universe.
As Salaatu Was Salaamu 'Alar Rasuulullaah Sal Allaahu 'Alaihi Was Sallam.
The Mercy of Allaah be showered and His Peace be upon the Messenger of Allaah.
Laa Ilaaha Ill Allaah.
No God is there except Allaah.
MuHammadur Rasuulullaah.
MuHammad is the Messenger of Allaah.
Sal Allaahu 'Alaihi Was Sallam.

Silly Allah said...

Are you that gullible to think that those magic words will help you?

Allah doesn't exist, and you're too brainwashed to question your silly beliefs.

"O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith." (Quran. 5:101-102)

REGI said...

Koran is full of internal contradictions, scientific errors and
historical blunders. 54:19 mentions Aad was destroyed in a day but
69:6,7 mentions Aad was destroyed in seven nights and eight days;
19:17 shows an angel appeared to Mary but 3:42 shows several angels
appeared; 28:40 mentions pharaoh drowned and died but 10:92 states
that the same pharaoh was saved; 18:86 states that sun sets in a muddy
spring of water; 15:19 mentions earth is flat; 86:6,7 states that
semen emits from between back-bone and the ribs; 19:27,28 states that
Mary was the sister of Aaron, whereas history shows they were born
about 1300 years apart; 28:8 tells that pharaoh and Haman were living
at the same time and place whereas history clearly shows they were
born about 1000 years apart and pharaoh lived in Egypt and Haman lived
in Shushan city in Persia; and 4:157 says that Jesus was not crucified
whereas it is crystal clear in historical records that Jesus was
crucified and not another man who looked like Jesus. By the way, the
transliterated name of Jesus in arabic Quran is Isa but even this is
wrong because the name of Esau, brother of Jacob (Yaqub in arabic) is
Isa in arabic. The correct transliterated name of Jesus in arabic is
Yasu. Isa (Esau) means ‘hairy’ and Yasu (Jesus) means ‘God saves.’
source: http://islam-watch.org/LeavingIslam/Why-I-Quit-Islam.htm

Nick said...

Hello! It's Nick again :)

I made a threat refutting a claim Mohammed made about Mary, the Mother of Jesus, having a brother named Aaron, named after Moses' brother. You can read it here, and feel free to copy anything from it:
http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?p=5402382